Stroller said: >> yeah, i heard some people on this list mentioning this. this friend of >> mine still wants to give it a try thoughÖ > >Don't let her turn it on again, then! > >If you find yourself having `rm -rf really important stuff`or emptied >the trash of really valuable files, power the computer off IMMEDIATELY. >Don't use shutdown, just pull the power lead out the back or (with a >laptop) hold down the power button for 3 seconds until it hard-powers >itself off. > >Send the disk straight to a data recovery expert. It'll cost you >upwards of a hundred quid to recover the data, but there are >specialists who won't charge you unless they do recover useful data >files. Vogon have a branches in the US now, I believe, or if you're in >the UK contact me for the details of a little bloke who seems to have >quite a good reputation. It's worth noting also that data recovery >specialists seem to have discovered sliding pricing scales, so if >you're a private individual who doesn't mind if the data isn't >recovered for a week then it'll cost you much less than if you're a >corporate customer. > >Cue replies of "ignore Stroller's advice - just recover from a backup" No, I agree completely. That is exactly the best procedure to follow if the lost data is very important/valuable. (And I, for one, don't see the need to chide someone for not having a backup *after* they have already lost their data. Losing your data is bad enough without folks giving you a hard time for not being careful.) However, if the lost data isn't very valuable, and you just want to give recovery a try without having to pay a huge amount of money to a recovery service, you may want to try: Prosoft's DataRescue ($99) <http://www.prosofteng.com/products/data_rescue_info.php?PHPSESSID=78ad9999 56ef83a2f6e57cb0266397f5> DataRescue is much more effective in instances where a drive just dies, but it may have some limited effectiveness in your situation. If you need a referral to a data recovery service that won't charge outrageous fees, let me know. Randy B. Singer Co-Author of: The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th and 6th editions) If a man is standing in the middle of the forest speaking and there is no woman around to hear him ... is he still wrong? - George Carlin