I just found the test which compared a MacMini with a 1.66 GHz Core Duo vs. AOpen's cebop scope, basically a Mac Mini clone running at 2.0 GHz. (Both ran Windows XP to rule out the OS from the equation.) As expected the cebop was faster for Office applications. But for the 3Dmark 2003 the Mac Mini scored 1765 vs. 1137 of the cebop! For 3Dmark 2006 it was even 268 over 119. And the results translate to Quake 3: 118 over 77 in favor of the Mac Mini. (Both use the Intel GMA 900 graphics.) By the way. The cebop was also significantly louder than the Mac Mini, probably due to the faster CPU. As for graphics: Actually the latest built-in graphics are not that bad as they used to be and leave many previously high-end cards behind. Of course, extra card with the latest GPUs are still considerably faster. But then, not many people will notice that unless they do something that is really focusing on GPU work. Björn