On Jan 27, 2006, at 21:16, Mike Panas wrote: > I find Firefox hard to look at compared to Safari. For me the > appearance of the type is just unappealing. Also, some features in > Safari don't seem to be in Firefox, like the ability to have a group > of sites that open in tabs with one click on the bookmarks bar. I know > I can accomplish that is Firefox, but the implementation seems more > efficient (requires less effort) in Safari. Can some of you help me > understand what unique features are driving you from Safari to > Firefox? I'd be interested. > Mike I don't see a problem with opening a group of bookmarks in Firefox. As a matter of fact, it seems to work the same was as Safari: you click on the "Open in tabs" entry at the end of the Bookmark folder. There are two main reasons I use Firefox as my default browser (instead of just for testing certain sites). One is because it has a more flexible and powerful cookie manager than Safari. In Safari, I have to either accept all cookies, or not accept cookies at all; and even the Help file says that if a site requires you to accept cookies, and you have it set to block them, that the only recourse you have is to enable cookies, visit the site, and then go back and disable them when you're done. This is unacceptable to me, as Firefox lets me accept/reject cookies by domain and even gives me the ability to accept them for the current session only. That in itself prevented me from even considering Safari for too long. In my opinion, the best thing Safari has going for it is that it is blindingly fast, being a core application of MacOS X, while Firefox (depending on the extensions you have loaded) can seem bloated. The other very important reason I use Firefox over Safari (or any other browser, for that matter) is the AdBlock extension. AdBlock allows you to create a blacklist of urls, such as images, javascript, flash, shockwave, applets, etc, that won't be loaded when opening a page. This allows me to surf the web without banner ads, hit counters, and plenty of other annoying things. I understand there's a third party plug-in for Safari that can do this, but I have never tried it, and AdBlock works fantastically by allowing for wildcard strings and even regular expressions, so that you can block something like "http://*.doubleclick.*" or "/ads.*", which in itself already blocks most of the crap out there. One other thing that might not be such a necessity, but makes my life better in FireFox, is the plethora of tab-manager extensions. At the moment I am using one called Tab Mix Plus, which gives me a high degree of flexibility over the use and handling of tabs. I can, for example, set special actions when I double-click or option-click the tab bar or an opened tab, customize the context-menu of the tab-bar, or change the default behavior of bookmarks or "targetted" links so that they always open in new tabs. Plus it brings with it an "undo" history for tabs, so that you can re-opened closed tabs easily -- either from a menu list, or by clicking on the tab bar (depending on the actions you set). I combine this with the SessionSaver extension, and I can set permanent sessions that will always be there the next time I open the browser. This is infinitely more efficient and convenient than just using the History and Bookmarks. The drawback, as I mentioned above, is that all this extra functionality comes in the form of extensions, and therefore incur a performance hit on the browser; Firefox might take a few seconds to open, and there might even be a noticeable lag when selecting tabs or clicking in menus. For this, even Opera is better than Firefox, which contains many of Firefox's best extensions as native functionaility. But Opera does not have Adblock, and so I stick with Firefox for now. dZ. -- "Bastard Operators don't just win. Anyone can win. Bastard Operators win and totally demoralise. That's real winning." -- BOfH