I noticed a few important differences between the two that possibly have not been mentioned yet: 1 - when you save a page in safari - the page named is equal to the title header - and automatically compensates for some PC friendly character changes - "/" becomes "-" etc... - this is a major plus. Almost every other browser I know of including fire Fox does not do this - and rather uses the URL name as the page name title. 2 - When you highlight/copy/paste text from a HTML table - safari does NOT retain the table information - yet Internet explorer and also fire Fox and others turn table related data into a very friendly tab - delimited format for pasting into Excel spreadsheets etc. -- Thanks - RevDave CoolCat at hosting4days.com [db-lists]