Of course on the fourth time I try it doesn¹t kill the machine. D¹oh ------- I¹m on an Intel iMac with Norton Anti-virus 10 on it (required by work) and without fail every time I run update everything it stops the entire machine dead in its tracks. It looks like an OS9 freeze where the mouse still works but that¹s it. Apple+Option+Esc also does nothing. It requires holding the power button until it shuts off. Anyone else noticed this? Richard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20060601/053db83a/attachment.html