Thanks Stroller. Since I'm blind I use the command line; there's some accessible gnome development but I don't use it. I'm not sure how to set the encryption from the linux end and I'm wondering, since I have my airport set up to require a password when joining the network, will I be asked for the password when I reboot with the card installed or is there something I'm going to have to do to make this happen? If this is too OT for a Mac list you're welcome to respond privately, but if you can give me more specific pointers as to how I get joined to the network I'd appreciate it. I'm trying this first with the laptop and I'm using debian and have the madwifi packages installed. Thanks. -- Cheryl "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also".