Randy, thanks for the info! Very helpful! --Bob On 10/20/06 2:03 AM, "Randy B.Singer" <randy at macattorney.com> wrote: > Bob Aldridge said: > >> Cable company gave the e-mail of the offending PC's and Mac. > > That means nothing. It is very common for PC viruses to do what is known > as "spoofing". That is, they take over the e-mail program of the > infected PC, and replicate and send themselves out using addresses in the > e-mail program's address book as the "to" and "from" addresses. So, > looking at the "from" address of a message sent out due to a virus > infection is useless with regard to determining where the e-mail > originated. > > http://www.plattsburgh.edu/help/virus/spoof.php > > Actually I'm really surprised that your cable company didn't already know > this. PC viruses that spoof e-mail addresses have been around for years. > >> I doubt the cable company too, but I need to prove them wrong on this and >> prove to the staff Macs are safe as I professed. > > There has only ever been *one* Macintosh virus or Trojan that has been > able to successfully send itself out to other users and that is the > Simpsons virus: > > http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_99102.htm > http://www.macintouch.com/simpsonsvirus.html > > The Simpsons virus circulated about 5 years ago. It is only for OS 9 and > it required Outlook Express to spread. It was never a prevalent virus > and at this point, with the passing of Outlook Express, and the rise of > OS X, it is probably extinct. > > Currently there are *no* viruses that infect OS X. (NONE.) There are a > few very rare Trojans. Trojans do not self-propogate. There are > hundreds of Word macro viruses, but they are irrelevant if you don't use > Word, or if you have Word's macro feature turned off. There are a > handful of viruses that can infect OS 9, and which can also infect > Classic running in OS X, but these are now very rare also. None of > these, other than the Simpson's virus, can spread via e-mail. > >> Doing a little checking around I found ClamXav. I'll give it a shot. > > ClamXAV is free, which is, of course, very attractive. However, the > product is misleading. ClamXav is an OS X port of ClamAV, which is a > UNIX server anti-virus application for use with Windows networks. (ClamAV > comes with Mac OS X Server.) The problem is that ClamXav uses ClamAV's > anti-viral database, with few additions in consideration of the > Macintosh. > You can search the ClamAV database here: > http://clamav-du.securesites.net/cgi-bin/clamgrok > As a test, do a search for, for instance, "Macintosh", or for one of the > known (though very rare) Macintosh Trojans, for instance: "Opener" or > "Renepo," and see if anything shows up. (Nothing will.) > What this means is that ClamXav doesn't look for much in the way of > Macintosh-specific malware. Sometimes free isn't a good deal. > > It is *extremely* unlikely that your Macintosh is infected with any sort > of Malware, and I would say that the liklihood that spam originated from > your Macintosh is just about zero. But if you feel that you must get an > anti-virus program, at least get one that can recognize the rare > instances of Mac malware that exist and can deal with them. I recommend > Intego's Virus Barrier: > http://www.intego.com/virusbarrier/ > > > > Randy B. Singer > > Co-Author of: > The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th and 6th editions) > > OS X Routine Maintenance > http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U at listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984