BTW: I even saved a few smart folders with 'RAW' search criteria like: (kMDItemDisplayName = '*FINDTHIS*'cd) || (kMDItemDisplayName = '*FINDTHIS2*'cd) [this will find both 'FINDTHIS' & 'FINDTHIS2'] - And yes - of course this is a horrible joke that Apple forces us to deal with this ridiculous technical code minutia when its entire premise is that Apple is " easy to use " ... Yeah right! - Anyway thanks to great people such as those on this list, I was able to learn these very cool techniques and that - combined with a healthy dose of medication ... Has kept my lid on ... -- Thanks - RevDave CoolCat at hosting4days.com [db-lists]