With re-upgrading to 10.4 I'm reminded of one of the things about it that really irritated me two years ago. The fans on my Rev. 0 G5 2x2 seem to kick in a lot more with 10.4.x than under 10.3.9. Plus (and I'm pretty sure this is somehow related to the fans), when I have the "Marine Aquarium" screen saver running the G5 starts to squeal like a loud bearing, oddly enough the only time I really hear this is when the screen saver is running. Does anyone happen to have any ideas on this? Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |