I am not kidding in the least. I respect your experience, and I know what I've seen. if OS X and a page layout application gobble up 2 gigs of ram, you have other issues. I have 2 G4 minis and I do this kind of work all the time, plus 3D and video. The minis each have 1gb RAM each and they handle the work I throw at them. It used to be true that pretty much everyone needed as much computer as they could get their hands on, but after about the G4 or so, 2D demands are easily met by any Mac, even so-called 'consumer' models like ibook or mini. the original poster specified or implied that this is a design environment, and that is fundamentally different than a prepress environment or full-on photoshop retouching, where there is no such thing as enough RAM of CPU power. nk On Aug 4, 2007, at 5:45 PM, Wayne Wilkin wrote: > Your kidding right? An iMac w/2 gigs of ram. The OS and In-Design and > or Quark, by itself will eat that right up. Not to mention, ever want > to expand? Forget it! > Design stations need the ability to be upgraded and the ability add > more storage, easily! Maybe your right about some of this, it's a > little more, but myself working in this field as a designer and now a > tech support specialist still in the industry, all I know is I get far > lesser complaints about slow-downs etc, the kind you would get with a > 2/gig iMac.