On Dec 10, 2007, at 7:36 PM, Mac McIlvain wrote: > > One nice advantage over the Windoze world was being able to enter a > one-word domain name, have the browser add the "www." prefix and > ".com" suffix and then just be there. I realize that if you want an > "org" or "edu" site or multiple words in the domain name that is not > in your Bookmarks, you have to type the whole address. That's > reasonable, because domain "guessing" has to involve rules or > guidelines. But in my personal browsing experience, the need to > override the browser's choice is rare. > > I'm a huge Apple fan. However, from what I've experienced it's > difficult to believe that Leopard hasn't changed from prior 10.4.x > behavior. Not that this is such a big inconvenience, but I miss the > simplicity of the former browsing technique. It was very Apple-like. > If it wasn't broke, why did they fix it? And for those of us whose DNS servers aren't broken/performing bad it works as it always has. Of course Firefox on windows had domain guessing, this is a browser feature not an OS feature. I'm still curious regarding the difference in behavior. In the Apple Discussion forums there are individuals running 10.4.11 posting the same issue -- are you running 10.4.11? > Re: Safari Search > Posted: Nov 30, 2007 11:51 PM > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: up-10x10.gif Type: image/gif Size: 283 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/x4u/attachments/20071211/1468c307/up-10x10-0001.gif -------------- next part -------------- > in response to: Jason Jordan1 > > Well, I'm using Tiger 10.4.11 and VerizonDSL as my isp and i now > also get the previously noted verizon search page on both safari > 3.0.4 and firefox 2.0.0.9. After a little research on the matter, it > seems that as of June 2007, verizon rolled out a new "service" that > places a branded (read: revenue source) verizon search page to > "help" customers while browsing. Apparently, enrollment is automatic > and while there is an opt-out for the service... it is a bit hidden > and only found after you click on the "about this page" button, as > well as convoluted involving manipulation of the modem used with > your verizon broadband. Further, I've read that the opt-out option > may not be available for safari or firefox. I plan to call verizon > support in the next couple of days and will get back with any > relevant info. Again, I would point out that Apple has open source at the core and this behavior may result from a change in something beyond their control (I noticed an upgrade to Bind in 10.4.11). There were also several bugs for WebCore and WebKit patched, but as the problem seems to be not just Safari related, and I'm not sure how Firefox et. al. use these if at all, these may be irrelevant as well. One explanation of the difference in behavior could be simply that your 10.4.x box is using a different DNS server than the 10.5.x box (a packet trace using the method I posted earlier would clearly demonstrate whether this was happening). Perhaps over the holiday I'll try investigating further but at this point I don't have the time or the resource (Leopard I have only at work as I've not had time to upgrade at home). -- John