David, You described exactly the same scenario I had with my LaserWriter 360. Give up. It's not worth the time. This is a good time to be shopping for a printer. Lotsa sales. I have seen some monochrome lasers for as low as $50, with rebate. Get one with a network card. Even if you don't need it now, you will later, and it's worth more if you trade up. Don't bother with the refurbs. Check: dealmac.com amazon.com officedepot.com officemax.com sears.com tekserve.com (I bought a Xerox color laser from them and it's been great.) smalldog.com dell.com hp.com brother.com microcenter.com meritline.com (good source for toner too) staples.com buy.com newegg.com (they have a Brother for $70 with a network card) bestbuy.com walmart.com compusa.com frys.com That should get you started. We have a bunch of HPs in our school and they have been very reliable. My 2¢. John On Dec 13, 2007, at 8:32 PM, David R. Boag, DDS wrote: > My parents' have an Apple LaserWriter Select 360 (one of Apple's > best printers they ever sold under their own name). It is LocalTalk > only. When they bought their G4 350 MHz Sawtooth, we actually > bought a network card, because my dad is cheap and didn't want to > get an ethernet hub/router. (They admittedly were much more > expensive then than they are now.) So they have 2 ethernet > networks: one that comes directly from the cable modem (still no > router) and the other for the printer, which is bridges with an > Asante LocalTalk to Ethernet bridge. > > Well for whatever reason, they can no longer see the printer, and > the sequence that we have used many times to fix this problem and > reconnect no longer works. I have no idea if a setting has been > changed or if the bridge is bad or what the problem is, but I live > a full day's drive from them, and can't play with things, and they > are not computer literate. > > What I really want my dad to do is to upgrade to a Mac Mini and get > a simple USB printer. He wants a laser printer, not an inkjet. B&W > is fine. They've never had color. The last time I was looking for a > laser printer, i got an HP, and it still sits on my desk. It's been > reliable. > > Is HP still a good way to go for a cheap printer? They want one for > roughly $150 or so. Is there a better alternative to HP now for low- > end laser printers? > > BTW, I was hoping that they would listen to me and upgrade their G4 > to a Mac Mini so that I could remotely take over their Mini when > they needed help, but for some reason, they fail to see the value. > <sigh> Maybe they'll see it better if I stop trying so hard to help > them when they are in a computer fix, but they're my parents, and > they've helped me out of much worse fixes than that. Just wish they > would listen to reason. Oh well. > > Love to hear recommendations for new low-end laser printers. > > Thanks. > > David R. Boag, DDS > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U at listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Pricehttp:// > www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal