On 14-Jan-07, at 10:42 AM, Linda wrote: > On 1/14/07 9:21 AM, David Candler wrote: > >> what I did find seemed to >> indicate that Shapeshifter can be a cause of some of these problems. >> I hadn't used it in a while anyway, so I deleted what I could find of >> it. That didn't seem to help me, though. > > Shapeshifter comes with an Uninstaller -- if you didn't keep it > when you > installed it, try downloading Shapeshifter again so that you can truly > uninstall it. > Thanks for the suggestion. I gave it a try but unfortunately it didn't work. As Brett mentioned I probably can't do much more until I get some 10.4 disks. For now, though I've got Firefox, which is fine since it's all I used in Linux anyway. As for DVD playing, I tried VLC and apparently a lowly 400Mhz G4 isn't up to the task of running it without stuttering video and/or sound (depending on how I size the window), even after killing off everything else I had running. So I downloaded NicePlayer and find it performs flawlessly. Good enough! ============================== David Candler dcandler at sasktel.net Chaplin, Saskatchewan Canada ==============================