On Jun 29, 2007, at 1:23 PM, faramineux wrote: > None of that worked. It crashes at it shows up on the desktop. However, I think that Stroller is on the right track. Whenever an application starts quitting unexpectedly in OS X, the problem is most often caused by a corrupted user preferences file. The problem is figuring out which one. OS X 10.4 ordinarly handles this automatically. When Safari crashes, don't you get a dialog box asking you if you want to reopen Safari? Doing so via the dialog box will nuke the permissions file for Safari and that might fix the problem. I would also try: Preferential Treatment (free) http://homepage.mac.com/jonn8/as/html/pt.html ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html ___________________________________________