No problem, just thought I would throw it out there. Ok one more thing that I don't think anyone has suggested. One of the fixes that are suggested is to re apply the update. By the way which update did you do? Regular or Combo? Try downloading the X.4.10 combo update. Also one more thing when doing the update have NOTHING running. Please let me know how you make out, these things bug the crap out me, but in your case buggin the crap out of you, Wayne. PPC update: http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macosx10410comboupdateppc.html Intel update: http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macosx10410updateintel.html On Jun 29, 2007, at 7:11 PM, Randy B. Singer wrote: > > On Jun 29, 2007, at 2:21 PM, faramineux wrote: > >> The only thing I added recently was the new build of Mac OS 10 >> through Software Update. > > That may be the problem. A very few people have reported that they > are having problems with Safari, and/or Mail, after updating. > > The only work-around, for now, is to fall back to 10.4.9: > http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=20070507084548849 > > ___________________________________________ > Randy B. Singer > Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) > > Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance > http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html > ___________________________________________ > > > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U at listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984