On 1/22/08, at 7:58 PM, Dave B DaveB_Lists_1004 at gto.net said: >And for me, "Y" would be slightly smaller but with a tougher case than >the 12" PB G4. "Tougher case than the 12" G4?" My 12" AlBook looks like new and I've hauled it 1000s of miles. I suspect its finish is even tougher than my black MacBook. I agree w/ Eugene, you must want a Panasonic Toughbook. Tom Miller .................................................. "The only time we see the middle of the road is as we run from side to side." R.O.Clark ...................................................