>From: Jon <jwarms at mac.com> >I shut down the Pbook, removed the battery and unplugged the >adaptor cable. And waited about an hour for that capacitor to >discharge. Then I reconnected the power adaptor and >pressed the start button. >The PowerBook started normally, chimes and all. I got a >message about an incorrect time, but while I was reading the >message the clock reset to correct time. >And the same results should be seen on any desktop Mac >without a PRAM battery or with a dead one. In other words, >no disaster, minor inconvenience. This was easiest to >demonstrate on a portable, but through the years I've used >desktops with dead batteries (Mac and dark side) with >similar outcomes. After a while, it's a big PITA, but that's all. May not be relevant, but a laptop 'knows' that it has a disc, and how to access it. A G5/Pro can have extra disc interface cards fitted and the built in ones don't have to have a drive attached. More information is needed to find a default boot drive. I'm just comparing with how non-PC systems work in general. David -- David Ledger - Freelance Unix Sysadmin in the UK. HP-UX specialist of hpUG technical user group (www.hpug.org.uk) david.ledger at ivdcs.co.uk www.ivdcs.co.uk