I think that Ed made the point very well in a round about way with his IBM example. It is one thing to upgrade your software because you want to. I have no problem whatsoever with having to upgrade my OS because of new hardware, such is the nature of the beast. I do have a problem with said OS refusing to allow me to do what a previous version of the OS would let me do. Here is what I'm trying to say, FileMaker Pro 2.1 worked just fine up until the point I needed FileMaker mobile, at which point I upgraded to FileMaker Pro 5.5, which continues to do everything I need and then some. ClarisDraw which was purchased at the same time as FileMaker 2.1 continues to do everything I need. I first ran it on my PowerBook 520c, then on a PowerMac 8500/180, G4/450, and now a G5 2x2. I've run it on OS's from System 7.1 through Mac OS X 10.4.11, yet if I move to 10.5, the only way I'll be able to run it is in an emulator. Backwards compatibility should be any OS vendors primary objective. Just because I like to keep old software around doesn't mean I never upgrade, I'm running the current versions of Microsoft Office, and Adobe Creative Suite Premium. I will spend the money to upgrade if the upgrade is justified. I simply don't like being forced to upgrade me when the product I have does everything I need. I don't like being forced into a whole slew of upgrades simply because I want to upgrade my computer or operating system. Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |