>From: n <netkat at comcast.net> >On May 30, 2008, at 11:41 AM, Ed Gould wrote: >> I guess I differ. It basically comes down to me if the clock doesn't >> work then the system shouldn't "work". >are you saying that this clock can not work unless the PRAM battery is >present and adequately charged, and that it is not possible to have the >computer boot, bad clock and all and to use a mouse and keyboard to >correct the clock? >or are you saying that the computer can not, in any way, function, >without that PRAM battery? IOW: No pram battery = no mac computer? >cuz, for my money, if it was the choice of gettin stuff done (or not) >and all I had to do was adjust the clock... The PRAM battery supports more than the clock - it supports the PRAM (as its name implies). One of the things the PRAM holds is the id of the boot device. No boot device = can't boot. Now we have more boot options, including booting Windows, I would imagine it needs rather more to be saved than previously, so a 'wild guess' is no longer possible. David -- David Ledger - Freelance Unix Sysadmin in the UK. HP-UX specialist of hpUG technical user group (www.hpug.org.uk) david.ledger at ivdcs.co.uk www.ivdcs.co.uk