-b; that's approximately what I have too...not the empty J2SSE 5.0 folder and not the library/java stuff... last night, I installed patch 6 and gave it a twirl.. still slow. unacceptably slow. previous versions were enough faster that they didn't make it a PITA to use for me, including Neo-Office J, which I might return to. BTW, 10.4.11 is the most recent and final version of Tiger. thanks for all that info, bill zapcat On Jan 3, 2009, at 6:01 AM, William Scammell wrote: > ZC: > > i'm on 10.4.11 (which cat is that?) > > in my apss/utils/java folder i see: Java 1.3.1 Plugin Settings, > Java 1.4.2 Plugin Settings, and an empty subfolder for J2SE 5.0 > > in library/java i see: a ton of files and subfolders many dated > 07/30/08 and 08/11/08, but no version numbers. > > not sure if that helps at all. > > -b > > > > On Jan 2, 2009, at 2:21 PM, zapcat wrote: > >> Hey, Bill; >> >> yeah, I've restarted/shut down a couple times since installing NO >> and its patch, just in the normal course of using my Mac.. I am >> not 100% sure about the Java; what version do you have, or know to >> be the latest? >> >> FWIW, I am using Tiger, and I saw no requirement of Leopard at the >> download site... >> >> thanks! >> >> zc >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jan 2, 2009, at 11:15 AM, William Scammell wrote: >> >>> i just updated to patch #6 after seeing your email. >>> >>> it *seems* a tad faster starting up. >>> >>> have you done a full shut down and restart? >>> >>> i'm guessing your version of Java is updated as well. >>> >>> -bill >>> >>> >>> On Jan 2, 2009, at 10:08 AM, zapcat wrote: >>> >>>> I recently installed this version (the latest) onto a G4 Mac >>>> Mini, and it seem slower than previous versions..anyone else >>>> experiencing this? >>>> >>>> zc >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> William Scammell >>> bill @ wscd.biz >>> vox: 781-956-3548 >>> fax: 978-594-5290 >>> >>> Accept risk. Accept responsibility. >>> Put a lawyer out of business. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> X4U mailing list >>> X4U at listserver.themacintoshguy.com >>> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u >>> >>> Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Pricehttp:// >>> www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> X4U mailing list >> X4U at listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u >> >> Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Pricehttp:// >> www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal > > > > William Scammell > bill @ wscd.biz > vox: 781-956-3548 > fax: 978-594-5290 > > Accept risk. Accept responsibility. > Put a lawyer out of business. > > _______________________________________________ > X4U mailing list > X4U at listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u > > Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Pricehttp:// > www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal >