HELLO LISTERS ! ! ! I am running 10.4.11 on a 2002, Quicksilver 1.0gHz MP - 1.5gb RAM. Was having crashes, freezes and kernel panics almost every day, so I reinstalled the OS and brought it up to date with all of the proper software enhancements from Apple. I am still having the same problems. I cannot isolate the sequence, otherwise, I wouldn't be writing this. Is there a known bug of any kind, a virus, or some other anomaly anyone knows of that could be causing this? It will KP with just Apple Mail and Safari open. It will freeze when trying to awaken from sleep. I'll get the "Killer-Gray-Screen" when trying to send an email. There is no rhyme or reason for any of this! HELP ! ! ! Any help, suggestions, or comments are appreciated! J. R. Rosen 281-467-5366 281-586-9876 (fax) jrosen82 at sbcglobal.net + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Trust in the Lord with all your heart; do not depend on your own understanding. Seek His will in all you do, and He will show you which path to take. Proverbs 3:5-6 NLT