[X4U] Re: Phishing

Michael Elliott michaelelliott at me.com
Fri Mar 13 19:35:56 PDT 2009


Of that, I have no doubt :)

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Sent from my iPhone...so replies might be short, and sometimes  
"autocorrected" into gibberish.

On Mar 13, 2009, at 7:51 PM, Joe Sporleder <joe at wacondatrader.com>  
wrote:

> I may very well know not what you were talking about then, but I  
> don't think I'm alone. It would appear that even some directly  
> involved in the debate aren't sure what they are talking about.
>
> Joe
>
> On Mar 13, 2009, at 7:26 PM, Michael Elliott wrote:
>
>> Except thats not what we are talking about. If the account has  
>> already been hacked, then there wouldn't any more emails.
>>
>> The issue that is still being explained to someone is that phishers  
>> will send out mass emails disguised as Paypal or other companies  
>> trying to trick people, knowing that only a (small?) percentage of  
>> recipients will actually have a Paypal account.
>>
>> This is similar to an email that I received last fall telling me  
>> that my credit card information was out of date for .Mac. The  
>> timing of the email was when the anniversary of .Mac's service  
>> startup was. So I was ready to accept this email "from" Apple.  
>> Luckily, I checked the link destination and saw that it didn't  
>> resolve to Apple's domain.
>>
>> And I, too, get daily emails from phishers purporting to be from  
>> banks, paypal, eBay, credit card companies, etc. And, no, those  
>> businesses haven't been "hacked"--they are just random attempts to  
>> fool you.
>>
>> ________
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone...so replies might be short, and sometimes  
>> "autocorrected" into gibberish.
>>
>> On Mar 13, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Joe Sporleder <joe at wacondatrader.com>  
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 13, 2009, at 1:37 PM, Ed Gould wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mar 13, 2009, at 1:10 PM, Ralph wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You're not listening, and you don't understand phishing.
>>>>>
>>>>> The email addresses DON'T come from the bank that's being  
>>>>> attacked. They come from lists that are circulated in the  
>>>>> criminal community. The phisher doesn't know that you have a  
>>>>> PayPal account; he's just betting that a certain percentage of  
>>>>> the people on the list he's using do have accounts.
>>>>>
>>>>> Think about it for a minute before you go off half-cocked again:  
>>>>> I told you that I got phishing emails purporting to be from  
>>>>> Wells Fargo and Bank of America, YET I DON'T HAVE AN ACCOUNT AT  
>>>>> EITHER OF THOSE BANKS. THEREFORE THEY WEREN'T HACKED TO GET MY  
>>>>> EMAIL.
>>>>>
>>>>> You're needlessly spreading false information and FUD about  
>>>>> PayPal.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>
>>>>> Full disclosure: I do not have any connection with PayPal or eBay.
>>>>
>
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