Are there any sort of benchmarks available for the new Mac Pro's yet? The info I've found on the Apple website is worse than worthless. I already know I can't afford a top of the line 12-core model. The only thing I've been able to dig up on the web is the following site. http://macperformanceguide.com/index.html I'm shocked to see that I'm seriously thinking about a 6-core 3.33Ghz, in spite of the cost of getting it past 8GB RAM. My plan had been for the low-end dual cpu model since it is so much cheaper to get it to 16GB of RAM. I have 7GB on my dual 2Ghz G5 PowerMac, and that is not enough. BTW, they timed getting these available perfectly. As of Saturday my PowerMac will only boot in "Safe Mode", and I've ruled out my HD's and RAM. :-( Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Photographer | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | My flickr Photostream | | http://www.flickr.com/photos/33848088@N03/ |