<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Well, Panther's calculator gives an exact number of angels that can dance on the head of a pin. So I'll keep using that one.<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Nov 27, 2005, at 10:27 PM, Steve Self wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica">Any time the feathers fly around something like this, it is quite interesting... The dance of perspectives... Empirical vs. hermeneutical meaning and methodologies... It is only real if it can be measured -or- it is valid if it has meaning between people conversing. Who's meaning is more meaningful? Validity by increased volume?</FONT></P> </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>