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Have you tried starting up in single user mode, or "open firmware" mode and reset nvram? Have you reset PRAM?<div>What was the last application, widget, etc installed?</div><div>Might you consider installing 10.5.7 (get the combo version from apple and install)?</div><div>Can you startup from the install disc and run disc utility?</div><div><br></div><div><div><div>On Jun 25, 2009, at 0725, Neil wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'Lucida Grande'; border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 13px; white-space: pre-wrap; ">I had a hard freeze on Sunday on my G5/2x2 PowerMac running 10.5.6. I could move the mouse, but nothing else on the system responded. The dock wouldn't even unhide. I couldn't force quit anything. So, I shut down the system using the button on the Mac. When I tried to start the Mac, I got to the login screen, but it had a pinstripe and then froze on the screen with the Apple, but no login screen. I tried booting with the shift key. Same. Then, I tried booting from the internal back-up drive and a got a pinstriped screen with a question marked folder, then the same freeze. The same happened when I attached a firewire boot drive and tried to boot holding cmd-opt-shift-del. Same result. Any ideas? Thanks.</span><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">_______________________________________________</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">X4U mailing list</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="mailto:X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com">X4U@listserver.themacintoshguy.com</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u">http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x4u</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Seven Cent Deals - Great legacy stuff Great Legacy Price<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="http://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal">http://www.drbott.com/prod/db.lasso?cat=Seven+Cent+Deal</a></div> </div><br></div></body></html>