Between the iBook and the T68, I think the Bluetooth connection is still used for these three things in general, or the iBook offers these three services when you pair it with a Bluetooth T68. As for playing games via bluetooth, I don't have very good experiences. Between two t68i with the same software model, we were not able to play a two player game via bluetooth. We tried with pairing, without pairing, near all options we found in the menus, but finally gave up... did you had success for playing and/or transferring images via bluetooth between phones? That Merlin speed would be great, even beating ADSL... unfortunatly, Vodafone Hungary only provides 4+1 for GPRS, even if your device supports more, they say you are only allowed to use 4 channels for download. But I haven't tried it. If Vodafone had such a service in Hungary, I would run for it! As for the Bluetooth speed, I can say it is very slow. I also sync my Palm Tungsten T via Bluetooth, and it is painfully slow. In the Bluetooth setup, the Tungsten offers 115000 bps for the maximum speed over bluetooth, and it really feels like a plain RS232 when transferring between the Tungsten and the iBook. On the USB cradle, files and backup flashes between the TT and the iBook. I don't know what the reason is for this slow speed, maybe in the Tungsten the Bluetooth interface is related to the serial bus, or something. Anyway, it is slow. On the iBook I use an Acer BT-150 Bluetooth dongle, made by CSR (like the D-Link DBT-500). The software version also influences the speed of GPRS (or Bluetooth speed?). With the original T68m software I only got 1 kbyte/s at maximum for download, now I took my phone to an Ericsson service point, and they loaded in the latest T68i software. Now it gives 4,3 kbyte/s for download. Either the GPRS, or the Bluetooth par of the software has been upgraded. Also, the T68i software has access for a larger memory area. Imi On szombat, márc. 15, 2003, at 14:05 Europe/Budapest, Bluetooth-Mac wrote: > Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 09:26:38 -0500 > Subject: Re: [BTM] Best Bluetooth Phone > From: Jack Rodgers <jackrodgers at earthlink.net> > Message-Id: <F7DC919B-5628-11D7-8E53-000393A567F0 at earthlink.net> > > > On Thursday, March 13, 2003, at 04:59 PM, KOZAK Imre Oliver wrote: > >> You can use it for three things: >> 1) Address book pop-up message for incoming calls >> 2) Address book/calendar synchronization >> 3) Internet access > > 4. Sending and receiving photos > 5. Playing movies > 6. Playing games > 7. Chatting via text > 8. Talking to another person or animal > > Of interest might be the Merlin C201 PC Card which Sprint offers and > that will connect a Powerbook to the internet at 3X dialup speeds > rather than 1/4th or so as some phones will. > > The fastest desktop modems deliver about 46K bps, the slowest cell > phones about 9k bps and the Merlin 230K bps. Download times at Max > KB/sec are 4.6 for dialup and 13 for the Merlin. The slowest cellphone > would do less than 1. > > Bluetooth downloads will be limited by the speed of Bluetooth, which I > do not know at this time. > > --- > > Simple Solutions for Simple Minds. Jack Rodgers for President. > > jackrodgers at earthlink.net > http://www.jackrodgers.com