To Andrew and others: Yes, I did that in Chooser and no it does not show up. Although I DID go through the install process while in sys 9.... as I was told. And it DID say it was installed????? *sigh* I am really tired of all the hassles with this sys9/10 stuff. Especially all the different "not the right privleges" messages I keep getting when trying to throw away things or move things or install.... It's a bitch.