I can't say one or the other. If I had to guess, both. But I can't say for sure. wait are you talking about the date resetting? or the problem at hand? I was talking about the self-shutting-down problem. not sure about the date thing. Way back on 4/30/03 10:25 AM, someone who goes by "david" <davidwb at spymac.com> typed vigorously: > One final question - does this happen when you are using only the > battery or when you are connected to the electricity or both? > > david