Hi, Jay. Uh, . . . There are certain legalities that you seem to be missing. You don't own the software, but only a license to use it (most often, on one computer only). So, if you're not giving the buyer the CDs (and the license) and erasing all other copies you have, then you can't legally give the buyer the software on the iBook. That's software piracy, AFAIK. The only software you can legally leave on the iBook when you sell it is what came with the iBook (unless, of course, you are selling the other software and include the CDs and full rights to it while deleting all copies you have elsewhere). So, no Panther, and no long list of commercial software . . . And, I think you'd be violating eBay's rules if you include the other software you list. Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings. Harry Corsover -------- On Dec 17, 2003, at 4:49 PM, Jay Boshara wrote: > I am finally ready to buy a new computer (20" iMac), so my iBook is > for sale > on eBay > (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2773624689). > It's loaded, and in very good condition. It's got a ton of software > on it, > but I cannot give the software CDs to the buyer because then I'd have > to buy > it all again. I will ship the original OS 9 CDs along with the iBook, > and > it's currently loaded with OS 10.3 (Panther), but I can't send the > Panther > CDs to the buyer. However, I will include my old OS 10.2 (Jaguar) CDs > with > it. Here's what's currently installed on it: