Any ideas about your fan use - I never heard a fan ever until my logic board failed and needed replacement, but this was accompanied by all kinds of other issues. Now I am just finding the fan come on and stay on without letup unless I reboot. The unit is ice cold, too... I think this all started after I added the battery update 1.1 or else the 10.3.1 update, but am not certain. Well, Yours, Geoff ------------------------- * ³ Be clear * Be direct * Be friendly * Be persuasive * Be concise * Be consistent * Be accurate * Be careful ³ from Apple Style Guide, 11/2000