Meg St. Clair wrote the following: > While I enjoyed your analogies, they don't answer the question: What exactly > will happen? I get the, "it's bad, don't do it, there are better ways". But > I was always an obnoxious child. I've never been willing to take No as an > answer with out a reason. > > If I just log on as root and delete a file (which I find a lot easier to > remember how to do than the syntax of sudo), what specific bad things will > happen? If you are responsible and think twice before acting (ie pressing return) then absolutely nothing bad will happen...however... Human nature dictates that we will inevitably act first and then think about what we just did...if you do this with Unix and root then because it gives you ultimate power and does not ask "have you really thought about this action before you press that key?" it can be terrible as then you could need to do a clean install and reconfigure the entire system or worse! (see below). If you do not make money with your iBook or are not running a server for others to get at their data or other items it will not be of as much importance...as a traditional mac user we can accept that we have needed to do a reinstall once in a while...that's why we make backups...but if there is a lot of valuable information or money involved with the equipment being operational then the risk of a crash or reinstall is very expensive or irreplaceable...this is why they always say don't do it...if you don't use root the chances are much lower that you can really mess up the system (with normal setup you may indeed have to delete the user and create a new one but the system itself is still churning along happily) If you are willing to do a reinstall and will not lose money by not having an operational system for the time it takes to reinstall then by all means have a good play (I am a firm believer that one needs to thoroughly thrash things before respecting them, you won't learn anything if you don't try it out...it will go wrong somewhere but hey you made a backup, right? and are accepting the fact that it *will* go wrong sometime so its not that terrible when it does crash and it allows you to learn more about the system normally reserved only for other eyes...It is a good way to learn about the unix environment and the fantastic advantages that a powerful and open system allows. Any good system administrator worth her/his salt will tell you that they also had a good look around and really screwed things up and required a clean install the first time or two, but how else will you learn the system better than the usual GUI interface allows... ...security is a whole other issue...if root is not activated then it will be considerably harder for hackers to gain control of your laptop as many attach methods are based on having root power (thus the normal methodology of only using sudo to do these tasks...after the task you are logged out of root automatically and root doesn't need to be activated to do any of the tasks... ...besides the above normal thoughts of preventative medicine, there is one real danger that potentially can not be reset by a clean install... If you start changing too many configuration files or such hidden files (. files) then the potential is there to change the settings for such things as modem or sound or other hardware like ethernet or monitor settings and the services that use them...this would be unlikely but you could potentially set the volume to damaging levels to the speakers that a normal user would never have access to, or the modem could be configured wrong and cause serious problems, the display settings could cause damage to the monitor but again it would require a good knowledge of which files and an editor to view them and change them...The golden rule is really important with unix as it *really* gives the user the power to do *anything* no matter how damaging...Think twice, act once... Most unix people have nightmares about having to reinstall the entire OS and its hard won sleekness and custom settings of files...etc...the other reasons are mostly based on financial loss by not having an operational system...As a mac user that wants to understand the beauty of the OS and what is going on behind the scenes have a go...but be prepared to reinstall if all starts to go weird or things don't work anymore...educate yourself about what the command you are about to type is really going to do...before you hit return and nothing bad should happen regardless of what user you are logged in as... My 0.02 Richard --