On Wednesday, Jan 8, 2003, at 14:07 Canada/Eastern, Romain Kang wrote: > On Wed, Jan 08, 2003 at 01:56:43PM -0500, Charles Martin wrote: >> OTOH, bringing over their own version of X11 -- now *that's* huge!! > > Slight typo. I found the page under > http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/ > >> The OpenOffice final beta is just up today, and that's just the >> beginning. Average (aka "normal") users of Mac OS X probably shouldn't >> bother with X11 at all, but for those of a geeky bent ... woo hoo! > > Woo hoo, indeed. If they really deliver, I might give up multibooting > OS X and PPC Linux, and go OS X full time. I was using mostly Linux > because Sawfish multiple workspaces + xterm under X11 is much more > powerful for the kind of stuff I do. > > I'll have to see how this works when I get my "new" 700 MHz iBook. > I specifically got an old model because the Radeon Mobility 7500 > doesn't sleep properly under Linux, and a laptop that can't sleep > is pretty lame... > > Romain Kang Disclaimer: I speak for myself > alone, > romain at kzsu.stanford.edu except when indicated > otherwise. On a related note: Has anyone had difficulty in getting the "Applications" menu to actually launch anything? I have tried configuring it to launch the GIMP (command "gimp"), GNUCash (command "gnucash"), and Dia (command "dia"). The confusing thing is that I can launch all of these from XTerm without any issues. Perhaps this is why this is a beta... Regards, Zach Heaton