Sorry if you mentioned this, but did you try booting from CD or resetting the Power Manager? Jkirk On Wednesday, January 22, 2003, at 09:38 PM, The Weber's wrote: > Jkirk, > > Tried both a Shorter USB Keyboard, off of a Blueberry iMac, and one of > the new extended ones, from a G4 iMac. No luck with either one. I > double checked and the numlock isn't on. > > T. J. > >> First, get a USB keyboard, connect it to the iBook, and try the PRAM >> reset using it. Maybe the keyboard in the iBook has the Num Lock on. I once thought about starting a club to discuss the philosophy of Fatalism. But then I realized that even if anyone came, they'd only come to steal the folding chairs.