this is his problem: "My Tangerine iBook just went dead. Oh, and I mean dead. Unfortunately, there's a file on it I must must must get to today, tomorrow at the latest. Symptoms: wouldn't start - could hear the drive spinning, but it wouldn't boot. Went to Apple knowledge base, tried procedures in doc 58385. Nada. Went on to doc 14449. Now the darn thing doesn't even spin up the drive - it's a brick. Any ideas? Or am I toast?" I think he's toast...but i'm sure someone out there could help him! TIA