I must say I agree with Joe on this one too... I haven't had this iBook 500 long enough to test the problem, but I have a lithium ion battery in a mobile phone, which I only charge when it starts to ask for it (i.e., it says 'battery low' every 1/2 hour or so) My friend, with a similar phone, doesn't wait, but rather charges his phone every night. My phone still holds about a weeks charge, whereas his doesn't go more than 2 days. This is after one year of use by the way. I realise mobile phones are off-topic for the list, but I thought batteries would be OK :-) Meanwhile, I posted here asking for advice on reviving a battery: I tried the thing in open firmware, which made a small difference, but the original battery with this machine still won't hold more than 30-40 minutes of charge. I think it is destined to be nothing more than a REAL emergency battery... :( Wiebe. On 18/7/03 12:34 AM, "Joe Jones" <joham at jo-ham.com> wrote: > I'm afraid I beg to differ here. > > Lithium batteries have a finite number of recharge cycles, and they do > need to be conditioned to keep them at peak capacity. There's no > counter that runs down to zero and then kills the battery, but you're > only going to get 500 or so charges out of it. Every month you're > supposed to run the battery down until the computer goes to sleep on > its own, then charge it up to full. > > I make a habit of never charging my battery unless the sleep warning > comes on (at about 7% charge). As a result, over a year later my > battery still gives me 5 hours per full charge if I'm careful (ie, no > DVD watching with the screen on full brightness). > > Joe > > On Thursday, Jul 17, 2003, at 08:37 Europe/London, Zoki wrote: > >> >> >> *** One thing **NOT** to do with the new batteries like the icebook's, >> and >> this should be a note with flashing lights around it on every desk, is >> <flash> **NOT** </flash> to drain it to zero. These batteries do not >> have a >> memory and they can be charged when they're half empty. Same thing >> with the >> iPod's batt.