Hi Eric, The only use I have for Mozilla is it's excellent email client (Mail just would not import my 1gb of old email). Now that Thunderbird has been released, I have no need for Mozilla. Thunderbird plays nice with Safari and is quick to start. It is also perfectly happy running in the background and doesn't complain when I move from modem, to Airport, to the uni network and back again. Camino is a nice browser to have lying round: it is more OS X like than stock Mozilla. It also starts up faster. I haven't tried Firebird, but I believe that it's essentially the windows version made to run on OS X. So it has XP style icons etc, and the interface isn't terribly mac-like. I find that for everyday use Safari is my favourite browser now. --Michael. Eric B. Richardson wrote: > I like Mozilla. I want to update to 1.4, but notice that there are a > couple of variants available, Camino and Firebird. Any thoughts on why > updating to 1.4 is nifty or why using one of the other variants is > better or worse than sticking with plain vanilla Mozilla? > > Eric