On Wed, 4 Jun 2003, Peter Nacken wrote: . . . > Well .. Network util is nice .. But in some ways just replicates what I see > in the browser ... Sometimes I get lots of funky results .. Must of the time > I get "host not found" .. And no info where it chokes .. . . . What does traceroute show? How it works is: it makes a connection to the 1st node it finds, and reports back its IP address; then to the next node, and reports back its IP; and so on step by step untill the address you specified is reached. So if traceroute always gets to a certain IP address, then sometimes no further, that would be the trouble point. For any given run of traceroute, it will always go through the same set of nodes; but from run to run a different route may be followed, that being one of the fundamental strengths of the internet. I don't know, but maybe one of the problems may be (you're in like Samoa ?? IIRC) not much bandwidth from your general locale to the wider internet world; or just limited bandwidth available from your ISP. The tech support you report saying they don't see a problem could be clueless guys having priority access to the bandwidth, or loyal ISP employees covering up for limited bandwidth. Or who knows, did you once report there was an ISP monoply where you are, maybe related to the govt or to whoever runs the govt? Might they have some kind of like censorship in effect? If you find it inconvenient to read the output of traceroute in the Network Utility window, just enter the command "traceroute <web address you want to check>" in a terminal window. If you want to save it to study, you can copy paste from the terminal window into an editor/word processor.