> From: "Meg St. Clair" <megsaint at earthlink.net> > Message-ID: <BB116B3D.C1B3%megsaint at earthlink.net> > > Uh, well. I don't know. I don't *remember* ever installing it but I > guess I > could have. I installed Jaguar on my iBook. This 12 inch PB came with. > Wiser > folks than I will have to answer this. The BSD subsystem is installed by default IF you choose an easy install. If you do a custom install, you can opt NOT to install it. IOW, almost everyone running Jaguar has the BSD subsystem in place already. Only those who deliberately turned it off do not. See my previous post about how to "restore" the BSD subsystem. (and yes, BSD is the core of OS X, however the part Apple calls "the BSD subsystem" is not part of that. It's mostly UNIX stuff and extras that help UNIX-based apps run. This is different from *both* the "core" of OS X *and* the "developer tools" stuff.) _Chas_ "The Mac interface is not 'sexy', and it would be grotesque to want it to be. It is, in fact, playful, often well over the line into frivolity. The bouncing icons (and the puffs of smoke and the pipe-organ speech synthesizer and the way dialogs tidily resize and the drop-shadows on the windows and the jellybean buttons and the eject key on the keyboard) are not individually rationalizable on utilitarian grounds, and they do not pretend they mean to be. They are there to, in aggregate, change the nature of your relationship with the device. They are joyful, and they hope their joy is infectious." -- Glenn McDonald