Mike said: > There are some mail transfer agents you can get, including sendmail. > However, I would suggest you change ISPs to someone that supports SSL > connections for email. It is even possible your ISP does this > already, but the person you spoke to didn't know. That was the case > at my ISP. I actually called their support desk, later, in order to get another techie, and they told me, regarding my query as to Telus having a server I can authenticate myself on, so I can send email elsewhere, "I've never heard of this problem, before-- did you try the webmail interface?" Well, naturally, if I wanted to use webmail, I wouldn't have asked the guy about SMTP. I could use webmail, but didn't want to suffer the inconvenience. Richard had suggested that, as well, and I had thought of it-- I've just never been a fan. I much prefer Eudora's features, or Mail's interconnectedness with everything else, system-wide. > An alternative is to send mail through the school's server. You > can have several SMTP servers specified with the OS X Mail ap (which > also handles SSL connections quite slickly). Tried it. They gave me the same answer as when I'd asked about using the apparently "public" wifi network in the library-- they can't allow me to do so on *my* laptop, but I am more than welcome to sign a Dell [*#&$!] out of the library and do so with that. Sigh. Richard said: > For more info you can check the O'reilly site for instructions on how > to set > it up and also check out the iBook or X-Unix archives for several > posts on > help...I believe Chas mentioned something about it awhile ago with > links? I discovered where the turn it on in my hostconfig file. And have been working my way through the O'Reilly howto ( http://www.macdevcenter.com/lpt/a/2692 ) with a copy of 'Unix for Mac OS X' in hand to aid in my rustiness with vi. I've put a copy of Bryan Costales' 'sendmail' ( http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/sendmail3/ ) on reserve at school, and will study this after my finals are over. I'm quite aware of the holes I'm likely opening-- considering my UNIX experience was pretty much limited to Pine and Lynx, years ago. I'll do my best to plug those up. I mentioned I prefered POP based mail to the web-services for convenience sake, and then I spent several hours on this. I suppose it was all masked as a way of further procrastination from studying calculus. Thanks for the pointers, despite my best Googling, I suppose I didn't quite know where to start. Off to study, andy letterspackages at telus.net calgary, alberta, canada