If you are running OS X, it may be software, go into the date and time panel, set the time, deselect use network time and lock to save changes. If it is not in X, got to MacResQ.com and check out the PowerBook ResQ program they have for pb repairs. On Wednesday, June 25, 2003, at 03:02 AM, iBook List wrote: hey all, my calmshell ibook (se 466 w/firewire) won't hold the date=20 (plus other pram probs) and when I brought it in to be repaired (the=20 modem jack is worn out too), the man there (mac911 in santa monica)=20 said those ibooks didn't have a pram battery, they used a capacitor=20 so a motherboard switch is in order. cuz of that and the modem jack=20 prob, he said it was more worth it to get the "flat repair rate" from=20 apple - $390. can anyone comment on any of this?