I recall that one of the biggest security holes in most UNIX systems would be default passwords being left unchanged (or nonexistent) for the various system users (such as UUCP, and the like.) Is this something I should be worried about? There are presently 16 users on my iBook, 1 being me, and the other fifteen set up by the OS. Should I be concerned about these extra users-- is someone able to log in via, say, smmsp? How does the OS derive these passwords? andy letterspackages at telus.net calgary, alberta, canada