My one paragraph mention of the new 17" windows laptops devolved into the usual Mac is superior and windows stinks replies (none of which were mine). I have been thinking about this and one thing that is clear is the narrowness of the point of view with very few diehard Mac users indicating they have any knowledge (some do) of what goes on in the corporate environment and how more advanced and complicated some of the corporate techniques and hardware are. For instance, how many mac users have a CD or tape carousel consisting of thousands of archived CDs or tapes that they can access remotely? Or run an email server for 5000 employees? Or have 100 server racks? Or deal in 1,000,000,000,000 byte databases? Or have to protect a $20 Billion dollar company's data assets from thieves? Somebody might add more insights on hardware needs... Apple computer has never shown much interest in these areas and after almost 30 years in business finally delivers the X-Serve. But Apple does deliver excellent hardware for the individual to use but not for the needs of a big corporation. I'm really not qualified to expand on that idea but I do see it in place. It might be interesting to find out what computers and software Apple uses for its own business needs. Does it do all of its accounting in Filemaker? Are there any windows pcs or networking devices anywhere in the Apple organization? --- Trees are being sucked dry of life in South Florida by a tiny insect. <http://www.lobatelacscale.com>