I'll add my thanks for articulating what we MacFolk feel for our machines. I am a relative latecomer into the Mac scene (since 1997), but am now on my 3rd Mac. I felt pain when I had to throw out my old IIvx, faithful as it was, but I'm moving and am disposing of a lot of beloved treasures. However, I put my old (and still working) PM 7300 (heavily upgraded to G3/400, 368mb RAM) into storage after carefully packing it into a padded carton; reason and future use for it unknown. My love affair with Macs is sometimes taken to extremes and I get very, very defensive about my Mac and Apple in general to the degree that I have stood up in front of audiences and lectured them about the greatness and attributes of Macs when someone has tried to put them down. And, I froth at the mouth if anyone says anything negative about Macs in the same sentence that they try to elevate Windows and PCs. I even treat my two laptops differently: I am very careful, tender, and gentle when I move my iBook into its carrycase and travel with it. But, I just throw my Dell Latitude into its case and toss it into the back of the car without a second thought. It's like having a pretty and talented daughter whom I favor over a troublesome stepson who will never amount to much. I just hope my Dell doesn't have feelings... Fred At 23:09 -0800 05/11/03, Gloria Vogel wrote: >Bravo! This says it all. Thank you for putting it into words, you >truly said it succinctly and beautifully. It is exactly the way I >have felt about each one of the Macs I formed a connection with over >the years, beginning with an Apple my late husband acquired in the >70's because it had a keyboard and he had been using an early home >computer which had to be operated with toggle switches. I could >relate to the keyboard but certainly not to the toggle switches and >was ecstatic when he got the Apple. Thanks again. > >On Wednesday, November 5, 2003, at 10:40 PM, e.mkeene wrote: > >>>My goodness Mac vets, there has to be something about this machine to make = >>>you act this way ;). I have to find out what it is. >> >>Back in July 1999, a noted computer columnist, Walter Mossberg had >>that same problem. He had been at the MacWorld Expo in NYC when the >>first iMac was introduced. After he left the Expo, he wrote a >>column about his experiences and his puzzlement. He said that he >>was fascinated by the Mac user's attachment to Macs and wanted to >>understand what powered it. So he stood behind the row of iMacs and >>watched the user reactions to the computers. He saw each person >>approach the computer, smile when they got close, reach out to >>gently touch it, smile wider and get a soft glow on their faces, >>Then they touched the mouse and started using the computer. At that >>point, he saw their entire face erupt into what he called a vision >>of pure joy. He still couldn't figure out what generated this >>response and was even more puzzled. >> >>He waited until the computer bank was almost deserted and tried it >>himself but still not answers. All the way home, it haunted him. >>Why couldn't he figure it out? Was there a magic incantation or >>something that happened to users? When he got home and sat down at >>his PC to write this puzzling column about this mysterious >>response, he finally had a revelation. He said out of a clear blue >>sky, he suddenly understood what was happening to Mac people: they >>had a relationship with their computer. It was not a piece of >>machinery or a tool, it was a trusted and beloved friend. He said >>as he realized this, he also realized that PC people never had this >>type of relationship with their computers. He also realized that he >>never would get that kind of feeling or have that relationship with >>his computer and he felt a tear or two run down his cheek as he >>realized how sad that made him feel. >> >>Since then, he has test many new Mac products and adores the >>"sunflower" iMac and ipods. >> >>When you made your comments about Macs, it was the same thing as if >>you had called our significant others, inferior or defective. It's >>the old adage, I can talk about my family, my boyfriend, my >>husband, but don't you dare criticize that person in my presence. >>You "attacked" our friend, whether you intended to or not, and you >>got immediate backlash from it. You came to our party and >>criticized our guest of honor, how did you expect us to react? >> >>Had you said instead, this is my first mac and with my pc, I am >>used to doing............, how can I do it with a Mac? You would >>have had all the help and suggestions you could have ever wanted. >>But when you said, your mac doesn't do the things my pc does so >>well or better, well, as you found out, those are fighting words, >>you are dissing our friend at our party and you became an immediate >>gate crasher and ungrateful guest. >> >>Now do you begin to understand? We are not particularly interested >>in how many people buy and use Macs, we are more interested in how >>many people love and enjoy their Macs, warts and all. Just like an >>eccentric relative, some Macs are more lovable than others, some >>are a bit quirkier but eccentric relatives just as valued and loved >>as "normal" relatives. Sometimes, the eccentricity of a person >>makes them even more endearing, Well, sometimes the Mac >>eccentricities make us more protective of that Mac also. Macs have >>personalities. Sometimes they fit us like a glove, sometimes, they >>irritate us beyond endurance but they still enable us to feel >>powerful and empowered because they will always let us be more than >>we are without them. >> >>Some of us use Macs to keep in touch with a community if we are >>housebound. Some of us use Macs to earn the income we need to >>survive or thrive. Some of us use Macs to perform tasks we could >>not do without a Mac. I am not a good artist but I yearn to be. >>With a Mac, some simple software, some time and inspiration, I have >>created some really good pieces of art. I have become a bit more of >>who I want to be because of my Mac. >> >>I suggest you pick something you want to do that is just a bit more >>than you and ask your Mac to help you get there. It will be a great >>journey for both of you. -- 73 de Fred Stevens K2FRD http://home.stny.rr.com/k2frd/K2FRD.htm