thanks for the advice, i've also since found lots of information at the Apple site (i always have a fear there is so much info i won't find what i need, but i always do!) for those who do not know, Apple now gives discounts to homeschoolers, under 'education'...Panther was available to me for $69 plus tax. as a hs'ing single mom of 5, i am most appreciative =) ~shahara <A HREF="http://beta.hometown.aol.com/shahara9/myhomepage/profile.html "> shahara lefay</A> *living love & simplicity* "my country is the world, and my religion is to do good" emerson <A HREF="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TerraSoLuna/">TerraSoLuna.org</A>