> Unfortunately, I was one of the early adopters and grabbed the update > and installed it before they pulled it. Likewise, on the 10.3 upgrade, > I just did an upgrade since I didn't have enough room on the hard > drive to do a new install or an archive and install. > > So, is the conventional wisdom that I should do a clean install of > 10.3 to see if that does it? Anyone know for sure? That seems like an > awful lot of work to find out it doesn't work. Thanks. Before you to go to those lengths (and I'm not entirely convinced this is necessary), I'd try the recommended steps that come up whenever this subject is discussed; run the battery down 'till it goes to sleep and then charge it, zap the PRAM, and so on. Some have even suggested jumping two connectors on the battery to reset the built-in circuitry. There's also a file in Library-->Preferences-->SystemConfiguration called "com.apple.PowerManagement.plist," that you can try deleting, and then reboot. One report even suggested turning off the indicator in the menu bar. I've had a problem with a sudden loss of battery life only once, and it was my own fault. (It was a relatively new battery, and I mistakenly did a partial charge instead of letting it discharge fully for the first few cycles.) The battery wouldn't take a full charge; it'd be less than 10% charged, but still stop charging. None of the usual steps made any difference for me; the only thing that helped was charging the battery in a VST's iBook charger (which I had bought mostly to replace my adapter). That did the trick, and I'm back up to a little more than four hours again. (For what it's worth, they have a refurbished model on sale for $7.99 these days.) It seems like every time there's an update, some people report battery troubles, and some don't. (They've never affected my iBook.) Problems are reported even when there aren't changes to power management. Not to say that the updates are never the source of the trouble, but I think a full-scale reinstallation is a bit like targeting a fly with a bowling ball. BRIAN/bpearce at cloud9.net