Yes, switches are boring creatures, but they have things that are not boring plugged into them... like computers and servers. Finding a wireless signal is not boring and to those who know how to see it, they tend to have a peek... If you are worried about outside users, take your laptop outside and see if you even get a signal. Might go ahead and get in to the wireless critter and setup the security if you are worried about that. On Apr 13, 2004, at 11:39 AM, Jean-Paul Thuot wrote: > Well thanks for all of that, I feel much better. Mostly the reason I > wanted to administer it is to lock it down from outside 'users'. > > I appreciate you taking the time to answer me so thoroughly (not > pedantically at all). > > Jean-Paul > > > On 14/04/2004, at 0:17, <kollar at alltel.net> wrote: > >>> I have recently purchased a wireless access point (not a router) >> >> There's your first clue -- it's not a router. :-) >> >>> to go with my new airport card. I plugged the access point into my >>> router, >>> fired up the airport and voila I was surfing wireless. >>> >>> ... The manual says the default IP address of the >>> access point is 192.168.1.100, but the router's internal address is >>> 192.168.123.xxx, and thus computers connecting to this router are >>> given >>> IP addresses in this range. Therefore the access point cannot have >>> the >>> default address, but so far I have been unable to discover the IP >>> address of it. >> >> That's because it's, in network terms, a "switch" or a >> "bridge" (the only difference is that a switch attempts >> to deliver only packets going to machines on the other >> side, while a bridge simply copies everything from one >> side to the other). Since they operate at the link- >> layer, or MAC (Media Access Control, not Mac) level, >> basically Ethernet addresses, they don't even *need* an >> IP address to do what they're supposed to do. However, >> most of them have an IP address so you can manage (i.e. >> configure or monitor) them. >> >>> Is there some way I can sniff out >>> the access point's IP address? >> >> It's most likely 192.168.1.100, just like the manual >> says. Have you tried pinging that address from the >> wireless side? You *might* have to manually give a laptop >> an IP address like 192.168.1.88 to talk to it. You could >> then run a port scan on it to see what it has available -- >> for example, if port 80 is open, you can talk to it with a >> web browser. >> >> I wouldn't worry about it though, if it's doing its job. >> Switches are rather boring critters, when it comes right >> down to it, unless you have a bunch of them talking to >> each other in a network. >> >> Heh... I knew that spending last week in a switching & >> routing class would come in handy. :-) >> >> Pedantically yours, >> >> Larry