It certainly sounds like the classic logic board failure. Running software would not cause that to happen. Ron On Feb 27, 2004, at 4:37 PM, Jim Shimozawa wrote: > Without hesitation, I took my iBook to the closest Apple store for > repair, but now I'm not sure if this was a problem I inadvertently > created or a bad logic board waiting to reveal its ugly head sooner or > later. Did I do the right thing? "A good exercise for the heart is to bend down and help another up."