Don Hinkle <donhinkle at mac.com> wrote: >ah, ok, yep. I was hoping to find such old stuff for free... Free?!?!? You want it all and you want it for free?!?!?!?!? :-)) Google [abandonware mac] and see what turns up. Also, the LEM swap mail-list <http://lowendmac.com/lists/swap.html> always has older SW for little $$, frequently for the cost of shipping or not much more. And of course there's always usenet warez binaries groups, hotline, carracho, bittorrent, etc. for those what don't mind being an out-and-out SW pirate. Arrrrr, please however understand I'm not recommending you go _there_ matey . . . Close enough to free for ya? hth, Dan K ................................. http://macdan.n3.net/ carracho://dankephoto.dhs.org:9700 hotline://dankephoto.dhs.org:9500 .................................