Apparently Apple just puts in a refurb logic board. So the problem persists and you'll do the same song, second and third verses. Ron On Jan 9, 2004, at 1:06 AM, Paul Bernhardt wrote: > I define successful as I should expect the computer > to have a 'normal lifespan' without needing a repeat of that repair. I > want this estimation so that I can decide whether I should pay for the > repair or buy a new machine. "A good exercise for the heart is to bend down and help another up."