Some of us do try to get company's to consider faster loading sites. I do try to convince client that it be simple, easy to navigate and fast loading Most wants it TEKIE looking with way to much junk customers are not interested in. I always stress that clients get to know their customers, dump any excessive bloat, and corporate back patting and butt smooching should be on their intranet not the internet! Not that it works even when you give the exactly what they ask for they want more! Designer's gotta eat, so we give clients what they, even then we have to wait months in some cases to get paid (currently suing a restaurant chain that's owed me for 7 months now and are still using the site I designed) R ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Rodgers" <jackrodgers at earthlink.net> To: "iBook List" <ibook at lists.themacintoshguy.com> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 8:08 PM Subject: Re: [P1] sbc yahoo dsl On Jan 15, 2004, at 6:36 PM, Angus Wallace wrote: Presumably, in less wealthy countries (or more isolated ones - if that's possible ;-) this is even worse. Bear this in mind when building web pages --- please!! Unfortunately web page designers are faced with the economics of satisfying their clients, not the surfers, or they don't eat. Your complaint, as well as mine, should be sent to the management and ownership of the companies paying for the sites and include the fact that since the page loads so slowly, you decide to go elsewhere. Even asking the designers to add pages for slower browsers falls on deaf ears. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.561 / Virus Database: 353 - Release Date: 1/13/2004